Thursday, July 4, 2019

Ex-Greenpeace Scientist/President Dr. Patrick Moore On CO2 & Physicist Freeman Dyson Say High CO2 Good For Ecosystem | 1973 Nobel Laureate Ivar Giaever: "Global Warming is Pseudoscience"

takeaway:  
  • Grow More Trees - Use More Wood ~UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) 2007    
  • Burning Fossil Fuels Thankfully Reverses A 150 Million-Year Trend Of Perilously Low CO2
  • we always have global warming before global cooling cycles (6x in last 1200 years) temperatures rise first, then co2 rises (not other way around).  
  • mankind is a tiny contributor to climate change, and all contributions are good for the ecosystem, not detrimental. 
  • rising co2 is essential for plants/trees/crops, feeds the ecosystem aka good for all life as is burning oil/coal.
  • co2 is the most important nutrient for all life on earth, all organisms need more of it, not less!
  • the more CO2 the faster healthier the plants grow.  the trees now are starving from low CO2.  
  • co2 has been declining to where it is getting close to the end of plant life.
  • co2 is not pollution.  dont confuse the two.  they have no relationship.  
  • co2 is so beneficial in so many ways it'd be crazy to reduce it. 
  • the whole earth is growing greener as a result of carbon dioxide, co2 is increasing agricultural yields  
  • plants want 1000-2000 ppm co2 for optimum growth, this is why greenhouse growers put exhaust from heaters into the greenhouse or use bottled co2 to triple what it is in the atmosphere.

  • global warming is the new religion because they labeled it 'incontrovertible' so you aren't allowed to discuss it.
  • 1880 to 2013 the changes in average temperature of .8C (0.3%) indicate an amazingly stable climate.
  • there is 5000 years worth of clean nuclear energy in the 50 years of so-called 'waste'.
  • you cant take water vapor out of any climate model equation. 
  • no computer modeling can do accurate predictions beyond 5 days out.
  • the real world is far more complicated than the models and you can not model everything.
  • sun spot activity, solar cycles, storms and cosmic rays/radiation, these change earth's environment.
  • elites telling kids the world is coming to an end and humans are enemies of nature, that is the real catastrophe.
  • in greenland, the ice has risen 5cm/year inland, there's more ice now than 15 years ago.
  • there are 4x more polar bears and seals now than 30 years ago thanks to hunting regulations.
  • not a single person in fukushima died of radiation exposure, nuke power is the safest power option.
  • fossil fuels are 100% organic, produced with solar energy, are the largest storage of solar energy on earth 
  • 'you're killing your children' guilt wins hearts/minds/votes for politicians who drive the 'mass fear mass control' factor
  • the green movement creates stories to instill fear in the public and the media echo chamber endlessly repeats it
  • green politicians are buying 'scientists' with government money to PRoduce fear
  • crony capitalists are taking advantage of massive subsidies, huge tax write-offs, and government mandates requiring their technologies
  • only 'scientists' pushing catastrophic theory get paid with public money
  • "This is as bad a thing that has happened to science in the history of science. It's taking over science with superstition and a kind of toxic combination of religion and political ideology"  (moore)
  • "There is no truth to this. It is a complete hoax and scam."  (moore)


Confessions of a Greenpeace Dropout - Dr Patrick Moore  -  31min
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Published on Jul 23, 2014
Dr Patrick Moore brings us his thoughts on the subject of climate Change at The Ninth International Conference on Climate Change in Las Vegas, USA, on the 8th July, 2014.

9:30  Grow More Trees - Use More Wood ~UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) 2007    

11:55  generally been warmer by many degrees celcius:  today's global average 14.5C: we are in an ice age which is why both poles are covered in ice13:00  no correlation bw co2 and global temperature.  

20:13  co2 is the most important nutrient for all life on earth, all organisms need more of it, not less!

21:55  88% of world energy produced by fossil fuels aka oil for transportation to move food.  hydroelectrical dams produces 20% renewable, yet greenpeace is against wood and hydropower renewables.  greepeace actions got world bank to pull funding on major dams.  when oil coal gas get scarce, we will have to use nuclear, which luckily is super safe.  

23:45  used nuclear fuel is our most important future energy.  there is 5000 years worth of clean nuclear energy in the 50 years of so-called 'waste'.

25:50  greenpeace hypocrisy:  "the GP ship is driven by super efficient electric motors... powered by the wind" which is a lie, in the engine room of the boat are two diesel motors that power the electric motors thus the entire campaign is highly hypocritical from any angle you look at it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXxHfb66ZgM

Nobel Laureate in Physics; "Global Warming is Pseudoscience" - 32min
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Published on Dec 17, 2015
Professor Ivar Giaever, the 1973 Nobel Prizewinner for Physics trashes the global warming/climate change/extreme weather pseudoscientific clap-trap and tells Obama he is "Dead Wrong".  This was the 2012 meeting of Nobel Laureates. 

global warming is the new religion because they labeled it 'incontrovertible' so you aren't allowed to discuss it. fraudulent science and junk science, and pseudoscience where you begin with an appealing hypothesis and only look for confirmations, ignore all else. the average temperature of earth is very difficult to calculate. 6:00 from 1880 to 2013 the changes in average temperature of .8C (0.3%) indicates amazingly stable climate.

11:00 CO2 is not pollution. dont confuse the two. they have no relationship.
13:35 nobody knows the optimal temperature of the earth.

15:11 the more CO2 the faster healthier the plants grow. the trees now are starving from low CO2. 16:00 allegedly everything shrinks from 'global warming'. 18:30 melting greenland. 19:20 scientist measure the ice-sheet using sats and the ice has risen 5cm/year inland, there's more ice now in greenland than 15 years ago.

21:40 there is no unusual rise in sea levels (20cm in 100 years is not unusual). 22:50 famous polar bear running out of ice. there are 4x more polar bears and seals now than 30 years ago because hunting them has been regulated. 26:45 costly windmill farms. 27:45 not a single person in fukushima died of radiation exposure, nuke power is the safest power option. 29:30 learn to live with change.


A Dearth of Carbon (w/ Dr. Patrick Moore, environmentalist)   23m
Conversations That Matter, with Stuart McNish
Published on Sep 16, 2016
Dr. Patrick Moore takes issue with NGOs over climate, genetically modified organisms and the "truth" about carbon.
He says we were literally running out of carbon before we started to pump it back into the atmosphere. "CO2 has been declining to where it is getting close to the end of plant life, and in another 1.8 million years, life would begin to die on planet Earth for lack of CO2."
According to Moore, it is life itself that has been consuming carbon and storing it in carbonaceous rocks. He goes on to say, "Billions of tons of carbonaceous rock represent carbon dioxide pulled out of the atmosphere, and because the Earth has cooled over the millennia, nature is no longer putting CO2 into the atmosphere to offset this."

1:30 for last 600M years co2 is declining in atmosphere, co2 dropped to 180ppm (30ppm above death of plants). 12:00 even big oil companies are pandering to politics, wont defend themselves. 12:40 co2, like water, is the food of life, foundation of all life. 15:25 the whole world is going nuclear power because it makes sense, its clean, reliable, cost effective. 17:00 fossil fuels contribute immensely to wealth/prosperity. 19:20 ecosense.me 20:55 oil has produced our longevity, prosperity and personal freedom; all good things. 22:30 wish media/politic/science elites would stop telling our kids the world is coming to an end and humans are enemies of nature.  


Carbon Dioxide is Making The World Greener (w/ Freeman Dyson, Institute for Advanced Studies)  23m
Conversations That Matter, with Stuart McNish
Published on Jun 9, 2015
Computer models do a good job of helping us understand climate but they do a very poor job of predicting it.
That is according to physicist Freeman Dyson of the Institute of Advanced Study in Princeton, New Jersey.
Dyson says, "As measured from space, the whole earth is growing greener as a result of carbon dioxide, so it's increasing agricultural yields, it's increasing the forests and it's increasing growth in the biological world, and that's more important and more certain than the effects on climate."

7:15 you say we can one day gene splice trees to absorb excess amounts of carbon in environment if it ever gets too high 100+ years from now if needed. 11:00 the real world is far more complicated than the models and you can not model everything. 12:00 sun spot activity and solar cycles storms and cosmic rays/radiation change our environment, affecting clouds etc. 13:15 little ice age coincided with 70 years of sleepy sun. 14:25 you cant take water vapor out of the equation. co2 is so beneficial in so many ways it'd be crazy to reduce it. 17:30 computer models are good to predict up to 5 days out, not more. 18:40 we can be sure that co2 will increase, we will continue to burn oil/coal, and the earth will get greener as a result. 21:40 manmade climate change has a small effect and the effect is all good, not bad.  


Patrick Moore – The Sensible Environmentalist  21m
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Published on Sep 24, 2015
Greenpeace co-founder Patrick Moore discusses how we need to look at science and environmentalism together and not just the sensationalism activism the media push. After leaving Greenpeace, Moore has gone on to become what he calls a sensible environmentalist and explains how Greenpeace and other like-minded organizations have moved away from using science as a basis for their projects.

8:35 we are in one of the coldest periods in history of life on earth to date. 1910-1940 it warmed as much as 1970-2000. 10:05 2005 - 2014 shows a cooling cycle in usa. 10:25 its been warming for 300 years since the little ice age in 1700s and the warming has been steady and even. 11:05 antarctic has record ice which offsets losses.

11:25 2006 al gore warns that ice cap is falling off a cliff, it could be completely gone in 7 years. 12:05 milankovitch cycle every 100,000 year causes wobble and tilt and temperature rise. 12:30 co2 follows temperature, never leads it, the cause doesnt follow effect. when the sea warms, gasses rise out, when it cools, gasses go into it, so temp causes co2 fluctuations. 13:55 co2 fertilization greening fx. plants want 1000-2000 ppm co2 for optimum growth, this is why greenhouse growers put exhaust from heaters into the greenhouse or use bottled co2 to triple what it is in the atmosphere. 14:40 water vapor is the most important greenhouse gas but is the only one in all 3 states in atmosphere.

15:30 co2 is the most important food for all life on earth, what every living thing on earth is made of. 15:50 carbon cycle. 16:45 ocean acidification is complete fabrication and chemically impossible. 17:55 fossil fuels are 100% organic, produced with solar energy, are the largest storage of solar energy on earth. 18:15 greenpeace protest oil rigs using diesel engine sailboat and refuel it with bp oil when in port.  


http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/global_warming_a_fear_campaign_by_scientists_hooked_on_government_grants_gr/
Global warming a 'fear campaign' by scientists 'hooked on government grants': Greenpeace founder
By Patrick Moore - Wednesday, June 05, 2019

March 11, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) - Conservatives have long argued that anthropogenic global warming (AGW) is a politically motivated distortion of climate science. Now that argument is being bolstered by an unexpected source: the co-founder of the leading environmental organization Greenpeace.

Patrick Moore, who is also a former president of Greenpeace Canada, appeared on SiriusXM's Breitbart News Tonight for an interview with Rebecca Mansour and Joel Pollak.

"Fear has been used all through history to gain control of people's minds and wallets and all else, and the climate catastrophe is strictly a fear campaign," he said, adding that proponents of AGW - the view that human activity rather than natural phenomena is primarily responsible for Earth's changing climate - is also fueled by "guilt" that "you're killing your children because you're driving them in your SUV and emitting carbon dioxide into the atmosphere."

Moore argued that on top of "the green movement creating stories that instill fear in the public" and the "media echo chamber ... repeating it over and over and over again to everybody," the narrative is bolstered by "green politicians who are buying scientists with government money to produce fear for them in the form of scientific-looking materials" and "the green businesses, the rent-seekers, and the crony capitalists who are taking advantage of massive subsidies, huge tax write-offs, and government mandates requiring their technologies to make a fortune on this."

"And then, of course, you've got the scientists who are willingly, they're basically hooked on government grants," he continued. "Most of the scientists - put it in quotes, 'scientists' - who are pushing this catastrophic theory are getting paid by public money[.] [M]ost of what these so-called scientists are doing is simply producing more fear so that politicians can use it to control people's minds and get their votes because some of the people are convinced, 'Oh, this politician can save my kid from certain doom.'"

AGW proponents suffered a blow in 2010 with the discovery that their leading researchers, such as East Anglia University's Climate Research Unit and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, had engaged in widespread data manipulation, flawed climate models, misrepresentation of sources, and suppression of dissenting findings.

Left-wing activists continue to claim there is a "97% scientific consensus" in favor of AGW, but that number is a misrepresentation of an overview of 11,944 papers from peer-reviewed journals. Sixty-six point four percent expressed no opinion on the matter; the 97% number refers only to the minority who did, and even that is disputed. The authors of the overview emailed the papers' 29,083 authors, only 4% of whom responded at all. Many of the authors identified as endorsing the "consensus" later spoke out to say the overview had misrepresented their position.

"It is the biggest lie since people thought the Earth was at the center of the universe. This is Galileo-type stuff," Moore went on. "If you remember, Galileo discovered that the sun was at the center of the solar system and the Earth revolved around it. He was sentenced to death by the Catholic Church, and only because he recanted was he allowed to live in house arrest for the rest of his life."

Moore's retelling of the Galileo story reflects a prevalent myth rather than the historical facts. The point, per Moore, is the disconnect between AGW proponents' conduct and their self-image as champions of scientific inquiry.

"This abomination that is occurring today in the climate issue is the biggest threat to the Enlightenment that has occurred since Galileo,"
he declared. "Nothing else comes close to it. This is as bad a thing that has happened to science in the history of science. It's taking over science with superstition and a kind of toxic combination of religion and political ideology. There is no truth to this. It is a complete hoax and scam."



Greenpeace Co-Founder Dr. Patrick Moore:  Burning Fossil Fuels Thankfully Reverses A 150 Million-Year Trend Of Perilously Low CO2

takeaway
  • Plants grow much faster when CO2 is higher, the optimum concentration is 1500-2000 ppm
  • plants would grow much faster if CO2 levels were 4-5 times higher in the atmosphere than they are today. 
  • greenhouse growers pipe the exhaust from their gas and wood heaters back into the greenhouse to increase CO2 levels 3-5 times the level in the atmosphere, resulting in 50-100% increase in growth of their crops.
  • CO2 is lower today than it has been through most of the history of life on earth

https://www.climatedepot.com/2012/07/13/greenpeace-cofounder-dr-patrick-moore-thank-goodness-we-came-along-reversed-150-millionyear-trend-of-reduced-co2-levels-in-global-atmosphere-long-live-the-humans/
Greenpeace co-founder Dr. Patrick Moore: 'Thank goodness we came along & reversed 150 million-year trend of reduced CO2 levels in global atmosphere. Long live the humans' 

Moore: 'CO2 is lower today than it has been through most of the history of life on earth...At 150 ppm CO2 all plants would die, resulting in virtual end of life on earth'

By: Marc Morano - Climate Depot - July 13, 2012
Greenpeace Co-Founder Dr. Patrick Moore commented a new study trying to explain the lack of global warming:
The new study claims: 'Abrupt increase' in CO2 absorption slowed global warming: Excerpt: 'The earth would have warmed faster in the last two decades had there not been an unexplained rise in the amount of carbon dioxide being absorbed on land, scientists believe." Scientists have discovered an "abrupt increase" since 1988 in the uptake of carbon dioxide (CO2) by the land biosphere, which comprises all of the planet's plant and animal ecosystems…the breakthrough had taken scientists "completely by surprise"…[study] explains how much CO2 is absorbed by plants and animals, with some of the CO2 then being passed from plants into the land." [End study excerpt]
Ecologist Dr. Moore pulled no punches in commenting on the new study: "These people are either completely naive about the relationship between CO2 and plants or they are making this up as a way of deflecting attention from the lack of warming for the past 15 years." 
Moore is the author of the book, "Confessions of a Greenpeace Dropout: The Making of a Sensible Environmentalist" in which he exposes the green movement and explains why he left the organization.
Moore told Climate Depot: "Plants grow much faster when CO2 is higher, the optimum concentration is between 1500-2000 ppm so there is a long way to go before plants are happy. CO2 levels in the atmosphere have continued to rise despite plants absorbing more CO2. So what is the 'scientists' point? It is to obfuscate, confuse, and otherwise muddy the waters with disinformation."
Moore continued: "We should challenge them to admit that CO2 is the most important nutrient for all life on earth and to admit that it is proven in lab and field experiments that plants would grow much faster if CO2 levels were 4-5 times higher in the atmosphere than they are today. This is why greenhouse growers pipe the exhaust from their gas and wood heaters back into the greenhouse to increase CO2 levels 3-5 times the level in the atmosphere, resulting in 50-100% increase in growth of their crops. And they should recognize that CO2 is lower today than it has been through most of the history of life on earth."
"There is no 'abrupt' increase in CO2 absorption, it is gradual as CO2 levels rise and plants become less stressed by low CO2 levels. At 150 ppm CO2 all plants would die, resulting in virtual end of life on earth."
"Thank goodness we came along and reversed the 150 million-year trend of reduced CO2 levels in the global atmosphere. Long live the humans," Moore concluded.
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'Save the Trees — Use More Wood' – May 1, 2002 — Greenpeace co-founder and Ecologist Dr. Patrick Moore stated in 2002: Save the Trees, Use More Wood: Excerpt: "We should be growing more trees and using more wood," explained Moore. "The less wood we use, the more steel and concrete we use. […] Moore explained that a greater demand for wood products leads to more forested land, noting that 80 percent of the timber produced in the U.S. comes from private property. He predicted that if "those land owners had no market for wood, they would clear the forest away and grow something else they could make money from instead." "When you go into a lumber yard, you are given the impression that by buying wood you are causing the forest to be lost, when in fact what you are doing is sending a signal into the market to plant more trees," Moore added.

co2 biogeochemical cycles
how nutrients cycle through the ecology.  matter cycles round and round, can't be created or destroyed.  macro and micro nutrients are matter.

0:45  nutrient cycling > macronutrients incl nitrogen, carbon, phosphorus and nutrients that all organisms need for life processes are cycled between organisms earth and atmosphere.    


co2 cycles diagrams

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